Dating ludwig drums serial

The tone flange was actually still available in the late 1930s and could conceivably be ordered on a Radio King drum.

I have never seen a Radio King thus equipped but it was possible.

Among the tape and tape residue you can see a cigarette burn mark in the shell to the right of the tension lug.

If you are familiar with the P-83 strainer, you can see how the throw off handle is bent forward.

The thing to look for is a seam in the metal; as I recall, Ludwig Black Beauty snare drums have no seam; you'll need to remove the head to see if there is a seam (on my Pork Pie Big Black, the seam is visible only on the inside of the shell). I know in the guitar market there are criminal fake clones, but did somebody ever heard of faked snaredrums before? - the lugs are obviously not Ludwig - the badge is vintage and according to the serial is probably 1966 - the nylon washers are modern, the hoops look modern - there are holes under the strainer suggesting someone replaced the original with the P-85 - an older shell would have a muffler installed or holes where one was - a newer Black Beauty would have rubber gaskets on each tension rod to keep them from falling out Not saying the shell can't be a Ludwig, but the drum as a whole is likely something else. - the lugs are obviously not Ludwig - the badge is vintage and according to the serial is probably 1966 - the nylon washers are modern, the hoops look modern - there are holes under the strainer suggesting someone replaced the original with the P-85 - an older shell would have a muffler installed or holes where one was - a newer Black Beauty would have rubber gaskets on each tension rod to keep them from falling out Not saying the shell can't be a Ludwig, but the drum as a whole is likely something else. If you want the real thing, I'm afraid you'll have to pay for it. now on the phone the seller was stumbling at first but than he admitted he bought this snare second hand (contrary to his first information)! If the shell is from 1966, maybe this thing becomes a collectors item?

BTW i thought the BB is available in 14"x6,5" or 14"x5" but seller is sure it is a 14"x5,5" snaredrum. The original is very expensive, so i would not wonder [IMG] are BBs out there with tube lugs. Do you think if the body is made seamless, this would prove the Ludwig origin? If you want a great-sounding knockoff Black Beauty, buy a Pork Pie Big Black for less than this snare costs.

was applied to the hardware, creating a stunning contrast to the black plated shell.

The Speedy Sure Hold snare strainer (known to collectors as the three point strainer) was used on all snare drums except for the lower line models.

The reader will be able to date drums from the lists of serial numbers, as well as date the many finishes that Ludwig made.

Lists of Ludwig drum endorsees are included and a list of spare parts, etc.

Leave a Reply